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ERIC W May 27, 2015 at 1:34 am
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“For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. – Matt. 24:5
And the Bible also says:
2 Corinthians 5:20Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.
Catholic Priests are ambassadors for Christ who pray for you in Christ’s stead as the Bible describes.
You say you love the Bible.
So do you. Let’s press and see who truly loves the Bible and who loves to twist the Word of God in order to pervert the Doctrines of our Lord.
Please read it carefully.
I do. That is why I can showcase your errors and lies.
Ask them by what name do they serve at the Altar.
By the same name that the Church has always served. In the name of Christ.
1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, ….
1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,….
Then ask them if they say these words: MY body….MY blood…Be not afraid. If they say yes, then ask them plainly, ” Are you Christ.”
And they will answer, “Christ says that we are His Body!”
But you don’t believe. You don’t believe the Word of God and you want to insinuate into us your doubts. But we believe what God has taught us through His Church in Scripture and Tradition.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
None of you are Christ, because none of you are of Him. Therefore, you condemn yourselves by your own words.
Press on. If they say no, then ask them how much truth is in that spoken MY.
Certainly, let’s press on. For the Scripture says:
Romans 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, ….
So, therefore, we believe that it is absolutely true, that MY refers to us. Not only to our Priests who are to us, “in persona Christi”, but also to the rest of us, because, and it is obvious that you did not know, we IMITATE CHRIST. Yeah, we offer ourselves to God as Jesus Christ did. The Eucharist is not just the Body of Christ, but the grains of wheat represent US. The water poured into the cup, represents us.
When we offer the Body of Christ to God the Father in the Eucharistic Sacrifice, we offer ourselves as well.
1331 Holy Communion, because by this sacrament we unite ourselves to Christ, who makes us sharers in his Body and Blood to form a single body.151 We also call it: the holy things (ta hagia; sancta)152 – the first meaning of the phrase “communion of saints” in the Apostles’ Creed – the bread of angels, bread from heaven, medicine of immortality,153 viaticum. . . .
1368 The Eucharist is also the sacrifice of the Church. The Church which is the Body of Christ participates in the offering of her Head. With him, she herself is offered whole and entire. She unites herself to his intercession with the Father for all men. In the Eucharist the sacrifice of Christ becomes also the sacrifice of the members of his Body. The lives of the faithful, their praise, sufferings, prayer, and work, are united with those of Christ and with his total offering, and so acquire a new value. Christ’s sacrifice present on the altar makes it possible for all generations of Christians to be united with his offering.
Did you not read in Scripture…
1 Corinthians 10:17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: ….
Yeah, when we offer the Eucharist, ourselves, we who are united in Christ, offer ourselves to God. But you wouldn’t know that.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
You may find out how much Protestant is in them. I meant to say Antichrist.
You are right in using the word “Protestant” and “Antichrist” interchangeably. They are synonyms.
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Biblical Catholic Doctrine:
The Sacrament of Reconciliation is one of the missions which was given the Church. This is expressly stated in Scripture:
2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
This ministry of reconciliation entails all the Sacraments. Baptism chief amongst them. But also Confession, Eucharist and Annointing. Scripture is very clear that God gave men the power to forgive sins:
Matthew 9:5-8
King James Version (KJV)
5For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk? 6But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. 7And he arose, and departed to his house. 8But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.
Scripture is also clear that God appointed men to rule over us and to be responsible over our souls to whom we should submit and obey. Protestants do their best to deny and ignore this teaching:
Matthew 18:17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
Especially when it comes to confessing our sins to a Priest. But Scripture says:
John 20:2323Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
And how else could we confess our sins if we were not supposed to confess them through a Priest?
But a Protestant will say, “I confess directly to God!” But Scripture says:
2 Corinthians 5:19-21King James Version (KJV)
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.
Has anyone ever heard that the Priest in confession stands in “persona Christi”? That is what that verse tells? He stands in the person of Christ.
Now, because Protestants have discarded tradition, because they deny the authority of the Church, and because they deny the authority of the men which God appointed to be responsible for his soul, they can’t imagine that God could actually have given the Church the authority to forgive sins in confession. But that is exactly what Scripture says and that is what we see the Tradition of the Church doing, from the beginning.
Origen
[A filial method of forgiveness], albeit hard and laborious [is] the remission of sins through penance, when the sinner . . . does not shrink from declaring his sin to a priest of the Lord and from seeking medicine, after the manner of him who say, “I said, to the Lord, I will accuse myself of my iniquity” (Homilies in Leviticus 2:4 [A.D. 248]).
http://www.staycatholic.com/ecf_confession.htm
You don’t believe me? Don’t make me slap you!
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