Tagged: Church

Does the Catholic Church have authority over the Bible?

Scripture points to the Catholic Church.

  1. Robert and Steve,

    Robert said:
    ROBERT June 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm
    Consider the implications of the idea that a true church can only be identified

    by its lineage of bishops that can be traced back to Peter.

    Who said that?

    Scripture points to the Catholic Church.

    First, Jesus Christ appointed a Pastor as head of the entire Church:
    John 21:17
    He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

    I see only a few Churches with such a Pastor. Further, Jesus Christ said that the Pastor over His Church would be infallible:

    Matthew 16:17-19 (King James Version)
    17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    The list of Churches accept this teaching gets smaller. Certainly, all Protestant denominations can now be eliminated.

    Jesus Christ not only said that the Pastor was infallible but Scripture describes the Church as infallible:
    Ephesians 3:10
    To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

    The list remains the same, but now I can certainly eliminate all Protestant denominations.

    Back to Matt 16:18, Scripture says that Jesus Christ established one Church. History shows that all the Churches sprang from the Church which is frequently described as the Mother Church. The Catholic Church.

    No other Church is described in Scripture.

    Sincerely,

    De Maria

Jesus doesn’t want us to come to Him through the Church?

He doesn’t? Then why did Jesus send the Church out to make disciples?
Matthew 28:19-20

King James Version (KJV)
19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


First, Jesus sent the Church, an organization which He established to teach His philosophy.
phi·los·o·phy/fəˈläsəfē/

Noun:
  1. The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, esp. when considered as an academic discipline.
  2. A set of views and theories of a particular philosopher concerning such study or an aspect of it.

philosophy c.1300, from O.Fr. filosofie (12c.), from L. philosophia, from Gk.philosophia “love of knowledge, wisdom,” from philo- “loving” (see philo-) +sophia “knowledge, wisdom,” from sophis “wise, learned;” of unknown origin.

Second, this organization is composed of prophets (and prophetesses) as well as Apostles and teachers and many other folks with a variety of gifts all of which they use to edify the other members of the Church.

1 Corinthians 12:28

King James Version (KJV)
28And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Therefore Scripture says:
Hebrews 13:7

King James Version (KJV)
7Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

To me, it sounds very much as though Christ wants us to come to Him through the Church.

He doesn’t? Then why did Jesus send the Church out to make disciples?

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

A, St. Paul says that God is reconciling the world to Himself through Christ.
B, St. Paul says that God is speaking to the world, through the Church – as though God did beseech you by us:
C, he says that the Church is praying for the world to God IN PLACE OF CHRIST – we pray you in Christ’s stead
Insinuating, that reconciliation with the Church is reconciliation with God – that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; be ye reconciled to God.
In other words, he is saying, be reconciled to God, through us. Us, being the Church, the Apostles and Disciples who represent the Church.

So, if Jesus did not want us to come to Him through the Church and the people in His Church, why did He send the Church out to teach, make disciples and Baptize in His name?